I was skulking around some wikis, looking for a bit of inspiration to spruce up the main page on my current haunting grounds , and I've always enjoyed the look of the headers here. Do you think anyone would mind if I yoinked the css for MainpageHeading to see if I could work something out over there?
Though I am definitely not the person who designed it, I don't think anyone would have a problem with it. I haven't seen any other staff here for a year+ save for Piko and even with her it has been over three months ago.
Sweet, thanks, and I hope the old crew, yourself included, is doing well.^^ This place has certainly gotten less busy but it's encouraging to see that people are still editing despite how long ago D2 came out.
Hey Geist, what do you think about a page on Environmental Hazards (needs better name) such as louderspeaker, wooden logs, steam vents, electric boxes? Basically what protagonist can interact or manupulate in the levels to gain upperhand against enemies. We have one for throwable objects and one for key hole, I feel these things deserve one as well, especially since they are often overlooked.
Also I'm replaying D2 at the moment and plan to cataloging quotes from Mesmerize power. Probably not from generic NPCs but from targets and named NPC. One quite gave us insight into Jindosh's childhood, hopefully they can give us more information as well.
Oh wow, my apologies for it taking me this long to reply. I don't remember getting the alert which is weird as I tend to follow a good percentage of nearly everything here.
That aside, we do have a page called Inspectable Objects. Is what you're talking about something like that?
Also, the Mesmerize quotes sound good. I understand you were referring to primary targets, but I never mind anything that gives us more quotes. If people want to go through the trouble of getting such quotes even from Generic people, that's fine by me.
We should probably make it it's own page, sorta like the The Heart/Quotes page rather than tacking it onto the Mesmerize page directly. The breakdown of the quote page sets up a nice precedence for how to organize it as well.
Hey Geist, no worries :)
I was talking about "environmental traps" that you can interact with to kill or stun enemies. But nevermind about it, I listed them out and I don't think there is enough information to guarant a page. Here are what I have if you're curious:
Loudspeakers: shoot to drop them on enemies
Wooden logs (can be found in front of Wall of Light in Campo Seta or the big yard in Shindaerey Peak): shoot the red thingy to drop the logs on nearby enemies, killing them
Steam vents: those red hot pipes that when hit, release steam, stunning enemies.
Electric boxes: if you shoot the panels, they release a electrical charge that knock out nearby enemies.
Totally agreed about Mesmerize quotes, I will make a subpage for that and move existing qoutes there.
Hey, it's been long since I've done more than peeping into the activity page. A lot of stuff happened to me during the past year, and honestly I still haven't even read the last Dishonored novel. I hope you're doing fine too. :)
I've been following the news about the RP book. Is it actually worth buying just for interesting world lore bits? I'm curious about the content besides the game rules but don't actually plan to do any RP with it. Not that I'm not interested, but I don't have any friends who enjoy RP sessions, nor do I have much experience with any RP. Also with the current situation in France, RP sessions would have to be played through WhatsApp or Skype calls. /:
Greetings, Paulo! Good to hear from you. I am fine atm. :)
As to the RPG book, I'd say that in generous terms, there's probably 50+ pages (out of 313) are lore related. However, the importance of those pages and the lore contained within can be dubious. For example, the pages with the stats of the main characters from the games, Corvo, Billie, Daud, etc. are basic repeats of what we have now but with the 2d20 game stats added.
For Bone Charms, and most weaponry this is the same, though it does offer out a bit more info on creation of the charms. Similarly, Void power descriptors are mostly basic versions of what we have with perhaps a bit different wording for some of them, but again the majority of the info is how they relate in regards to the rules of the RPG aspect.
There are some new notes found throughout, but currently adding them is an issue as none of them are named/titled.
What I found to be the most expansive and original lore for the book is:
decent descriptors of a majority of the Districts in Dunwall (though they still don't tell us where some of these are located)
Districts/Quarters in Karnaca are expanded a bit
more info on the cities/towns of the Isles, as well as more info on the Isles themselves, with places like Morley and Tyvia finally get the treatment to bring them closer on par with what we know about Gristol and Serkonos
factions such as gangs and military groups are expanded a bit, but the ranks of members within the factions are problematic as they seem based for ranking within the RPG framework and some of this conflicts (slightly) with knowledge we have of the ranks within the Games.
This reduces the usable lore somewhat for new content.
In my opinion, if you're a completionist, I think getting the book is a good idea, and have personally ordered the Physical copy for when it comes out for release. However I am also an RPG enthusiast, and while I don't plan on playing the 2d20 system itself, it gives me a basis if I want to convert that to other systems.
If you're not sure, you can pick up just the PDF and then get a credit in case you wish to get a physical copy. If you order the physical copy, you get the pdf right away (and the pdf is free this way). I personally was not disappointed with it at all, but I can see others not being so inclined to get the book, at least not right away.
Hopefully, that helps with your decision regarding the book. :)
I've seen a few edits here and there added to the wiki regarding new powers and weapons (it's nice that riffles finally make another appearance). As you probably remember however, I'm a sucker for locations lore such as districts. I hope they expanded upon the lore of the districts of Karnaca that were not visited much (Clemente Landing, Aventa, etc...) rather than just describing them with a few lines. The same can be said of Dunwall too, but I always thought Arkane Studios had a more logic approach when they designed Karnaca.
I believe I'm a completionist in regard to this series, so I guess I could at least get the PDF. It's not like there are a lot of entertainment to spend money on these days, being confined at home and all. /:
Btw if you don't know how to upload the notes, may I suggest having them all on a single page? Something like "Dishonored RPG Written Notes". It's not as good as having a page for each note like we've been doing so far, but it's less messy as tying to give them titles when they don't have any. I can have a look and make a mock-up page if you want.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback. Glad to see you're well. I hope that's also the case for the rest of the team. :)
Hey Pauolo, it's been a while :)
Geist did a great job of summing it up. The only thing I would add is it has several pages of new lore about myths/legends of historical figures, locations and creatures. And yes, it did also add quite a bit about districts of Dunwall and Karnaca, we can improve those pages for sure.
I like the idea of one page for the written notes as well. For sure that's easier than trying to find a title for each note.
Ok, I think I'll get it in PDF then. Even if the geographical location of districts is not made clear, there were pages I wanted to rethink (like should we separate the Aventa and Compo Seta district pages, regroup the Cyria district pages?). It's something I wrote an exposé for because the game lacked clarity on the matter.
Also I guess the physical edition's printings has been delayed indefinitely because of the covid-19 crisis. That leaves me time to figure if getting a hardcover copy will be worth it anyway. A shame more books don't come with both a physical and digital version when buying them.
I just perused through the book quickly. That book is just bountiful with pieces of lore to give more coherence to the places and factions of that series. o_o
It's everything I wished for the series, like the complete history of Karnaca. I'd probably take days just to enrich our pages with what the book brings. There are also some more details for the Timeline page like the founding of the Howlers for example. There's even finally some clarification about the Eyeless gang's origins.
I understand why a lot of these informations could not be told in the game though. It's the same reason as to why the "books" found in-game are just excerpts. Too much lore and you'd be sitting with the game opened, doing nothing but reading, kinda like what I started doing when playing The Witcher. Releasing those informations within a RPG book is actually clever though.
Pauolo, glad to hear you like it! I was hoping you would but wasn't 100% what I would consider enough new lore to make the pdf value for the price would be the same as others.
As Acrius noted, the Dishonored RPG Written Notes article was something we had discussed, so it's inclusion would be a nice addition. I don't think there would be a problem with us posting certain pages containing them, but I feel we should also write them out - but that's just my opinion. I'm open to suggestions about it.
I did make a new Category for the RPG, which is for aspects solely unique to the RPG book, as a good percentage of the wiki is represented in the book, and render the category moot.
If there are any other suggestions, let me know. :)
Fixed a typo on that note and remove the reference to Stilton Mines (there are other mining companies in Karnaca as well and the note doesn't confirm which one. Other than that, it looks great. May I suggest we use Bold for the First Note, Second Note headings instead of ;. It achieves the same affect without breaking the overall style.
Actually, that's what I meant in my comment above about posting the pages that contain them. I was gonna post the whole page(s) honestly, since then there wouldn't be as many pics since there'd by two-to-three notes per page.
I actually agree that the handwriting looks interesting. It'd be one thing if the notes just looked all the same like the do in the games themselves, but here we actually have them to post.
I still think we should type them out, for the sake of cataloging, and making it easier for people to copy-paste. Plus, while the handwriting looks great, it's not exactly easy to read, lol. So I would either type them out and add the screencaps, or just type them.
As per my previous post above, I already intended to:
1) do a screencap post of the pages containing the notes - I was going to just post the whole page that contained the notes, thus reducing the amount of individual pics needed to be posted as opposed to one screencap per note.
2) fully write out the notes in their entirety. This serves the duo-purpose of not only making it easier to read for those who aren't used to the cursive style, but also allows us to post links with the article such as the first note containing links to the City Watch, Bottle Street Gang, etc.
I'd already prepped the screencaps of the pages to be uploaded, and was merely waiting for the article to be created and finalized before doing so.
Also, I'm really liking how you have the notes broken up by chapter. I was hoping that was how they were gonna be done, but didn't know if it was a good idea or not. Seeing it now, I think you have done a great job. :)
Just an addendum, the note written by Horatio Weatherby actually had his family name covered by the other note on the same page (the one I had to copy by hand). However, the pdf still detected the text field beneath it.
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I was strolling around in the wiki and I noticed something we could improve: while we have very precise categories, for example, for the City Watch and Grand Guard members, the same can't be applied for other characters/groups. The Brigmore Witches, Delilah included, are under the category of "Supernatural", which includes a lot of things like powers, runes and so on. It could be more precise and less vague adding a categorie for them ("Brigmore Witches"?). Same with the "Gangs" category (Bottle Street, Whalers, Hatters, Howlers...).
I hope I managed to explain myself clearly; otherwise, I'm sorry.
(Also: in the Italian version of Dishonored, Callista Curnow is written as "Kalista Curnow"; can I add this to her trivias?)
I wanted to ask you when an user is allowed to create a page about unseen characters, like Captain Galloway's. In other words, what are the requirements. I wanted to create a page about Fenella Reid, an unseen character mentioned in Dishonored 2 by three written notes: Letter from Boyle Accounting Service, Anonymous Letter and Warehouse Key. There is enough material for an article, but I wasn't sure after reading the Manual of Style; so, I thought it was a better idea asking to a moderator.
Thank you for your attention, hoping I didn't bother you in any way.
Greetings! My apologies for so late a reply to your message.
I double-checked the notes in question that you linked and I don't see any problem with doing a page for that character.
As for requirements for an Unseen Character there isn't really a set of them as far as I know; it's more of a case by case basis. Usually though, we kinda choose characters who appear in more than one note and who have a bit more information than just their name or title. Appearing in multiple expansions also helps such as with the case of Captain Galloway.
However, we also make exceptions with characters such as Jelly who was kind of a fan/community favorite making only two appearances in notes and not having a lot of info. Two moderators (Piko and myself) actually consulted about this in Live! Chat before the page was made and we weighed the ins and outs of it before proceeding though.
That said, you may proceed with your new page whenever you wish and if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask. :)
Hi. I'm a huge Dishonored fan and frequently visit the Dishonored Wiki. I was looking at the page on the Burglar challenge and noticed it doesn't include a trivia entry relating to how you (for unknown reasons) wield the Assassin's blade instead of Corvo's sword when playing the "Expert" version of the challenge. I think it's an interesting tidbit of information, arguably worthy of being a trivia point on the page. What do you think?
Thanks for all the work you've put into running this wiki!
My sincere apologies for taking this long to get back to you. :(
Yes, if you have trivia related to the Burglar challenge that is not up on the page, please feel free to add it. I don't usually play the Dunwall City Trials, never really play on expert, and it's been so long that even if I had done the two former things, I don't remember.
Thank you for your interest in the wiki and again my apologies for taking so long a period to reply.
Hey, ich habe gesehen, dass du auch im deutschsprachigen Dishonored Wiki aktiv bist, daher formuliere ich mein Anliegen mal auf deutsch. Ich bin der Leiter einer interatkiven Schauspielgruppe und arbeite momentan an einer Geschichte, die im Dishonored Universum spielt. Die anderen beiden Hauptgeschichten entspringe komplett meinem Gedankengut und der Kreativität der restlichen Köpfe dieser Gruppe. Ich belese mich schon seit einigen Tagen in diesem Wiki über die Welt von Dishonored und bin von eurer Arbeit ziemlich überwältigt. (Ein Lob an dieser Stelle) Ich müsste für einen erfolgreichen Verlauf der Geschichte nun Informationen aus diesem Wiki, mit dazu gedichteten Charakteren und Städten verbinden. Anschließend wollte ich diese inoffiziellen Informationen in unser Schauspielwiki hochladen. Im Endeffekt habt ihr euch aber die Arbeit gemacht die ganze Lore aus den Dishonored Spielen herauszuschreiben und ich hätte ein schlechtes Gewissen dabei mein Vorhaben in die Tat umzusetzen ohne mit jemanden Rücksprache gehalten zu haben. Es bleibt zu erwähnen, dass wir nicht kommerziell arbeiten, es geht nur darum ein paar Menschen mal eine Auszeit vom Alltag zu gewähren. Weiterführend würden wir in jedem Beitrag einen Link zum englischsprachigen Dishonored Wiki hinzufügen.
Greetings! I was wandering around the wiki (and let me tell you, you all did a really great job here) and noticed a little detail: there isn't any page for Mariah, a witch enemy you can encounter in Dishonored 2 during "The Clockwork Mansion" mission (she will appear on Lower Aventa after rescuing Sokolov). She also carries a note, where you can learn her name, which is recorded here among the others.
I was wondering if I could create her page, but being an user who never contributed before, I tought it was wiser asking to an admin the permit before anything. Being an assiduous visitor here, I'm pretty accustomed to the wiki's format and style rules, but asking doesn't hurt, does it?
Thank you for the attention, hoping it wasn't a bothersome question.
I just read the page, in order to assimilate my potential flaws. Thank you for the review. I'll make sure to be more careful next time, looking forward to a collaboration with y'all in the future (even though, I suppose this isn't... the best moment, considering the hiatus of the franchise).
I'm sorry for bothering you again, but I have a question (and I hope this is the right place). I wanted to edit Jacobi's page, adding all the informations about his childhood revealed in My Family's Bones. However, I can't manage to add the reference, and a wording continues to pop out, saying that tag ref exists, but no references/ tag was found.
I also cheked the manual of style and other pages to get an idea about an eventual error in my coding, but I can't find it. Could you kindly help me? Also, should the reference be applied after all that biography part? It's not a simple sentence, after all, and I would not like to make a mistake.
Hey there, Geist. First off, long time no see; it's good to see you're still around. :)
More importantly though, as the last of the old guard who's still kicking around, I was wondering what your thoughts are on me adding IPA pronunciation guides for major characters, locations, and the like.
Actually, "pronunciation guides" are very compact and are meant to immediately succeed the name as stated in the beginning of the page, on each page. Thus, for Corvo, it would look something like this: Corvo Attano (/ˈkɔrvoʊ əˈtɑnoʊ/) is the protagonist...
Admittedly, for people not familiar with the IPA it may be frivolous, but they are pretty standard for most proper names on Wikipedia and the like, if that's any indication of their usefulness.