User blog:PikovajaDama/The Trivia And The Speculation

Hello everybody!

I've had several discussions on chat during the last few days on how to handle certain trivia entries. The matter at hand leading up to this discussion was one user stating in trivia section of the Caulkenny page that the name resembles the  real Irish city Kilkenny, and another user removing it as speculation, while at the same time on the Morley page we have that very same resemblance stated in the trivia section (among other statements in the same manner) and it has sat there untouched for quite a bit.

We have no sources added that those parallels (that do exist, if you look at them - the Caulkenny -> Kilkenny part for example is pretty obvious IMO)  were intentional by the devs, so technically that is speculation, right? (Correct me, if I am wrong.) And we do not allow speculation, so technically those entries need to be removed.

However, the MoS also states as the definition of Trivia: "uncritical but potentially interesting minor facts in small, concise entries."

So, my question is, what qualifies a trivia point as interesting enough to be noteworthy? There are quite a few trivia points that we have no confirmation of them to be intentional by the devs, like the Clocktower being based on Big Ben, or Kaldwin's Bridge being based on the Tower Bridge in London (at least there is no source added on the pages). Or even that Caulkenny/Kilkenny example from earlier. We have no word from the devs on that being intentional, still I think those parallels are too obvious to anyone to argue that they are NOT parallels/intentional. I could list more examples, but I think you get the idea.

So, what trivia is worth to stay, even if NOT confiremd to be intentional, and what is not? Obviously, things like that Elsa was inspired by the character from the movie Frozen (yes, that happened!) have to be removed, because that is clearly NOT true.

I'd like to establish a more defined rule on that so that users don't get their (possibly good and interesting) entries removed as speculation while other entries made in the same manner stay.

Another food for thought is how the wording may make a difference here:

"Caulkenny is based on the real-life Irish city of Kilkenny" sounds like a speculation presented as an actual fact, and without a source would be likely to be removed. However, if we tweak it a bit to say "Caulkenny bears a resemblance to the real-life Irish city of Kilkenny" it states an interesting fact/parallel without claiming that it was intentional.

So, how should we handle this?

- Piko