Talk:Ghost/@comment-220.233.171.88-20130126024304

I just finished a play through to get Clean Hands, Shadow and Ghost all in one go. I can safely say the following:

- This achievement does count for the white bolts when the NPCs get alerted. I can't say for sure for red (I always reloaded if it got that high). But I got a few white bolts and it was fine.

- It is absolutely possible to deal with the Granny Rags/Slackjaw confrontation and still get these - you can Bend Time and pickpocket Granny Rags while she's still yelling at you. As long as you close the doors behind you, you'll be right.

- River Krusts don't count towards killing anything or getting caught, nor do rats and hagfish (particularly by Possession).

- As for Daud, the guy is freaking oblivious to everything - I just grabbed his key (from under the table behind him) and left him to his own devices. Even if you use Bend Time it's easy to get by him. Considering how long and annoying the mission is, I wasn't game to try neutralising him any other way.