Thread:Recludam/@comment-16241899-20161211100835/@comment-29664475-20161211215216

It's not an obsession. That's simply how aristocracy works by nearly every sourced account that's been mentioned. I simply have yet to see how they aren't, by the definition given on this wiki and by other sources, aristocrats; and unlike with clergy, nothing has been said to sway my stance thus far. Obviously nobility isn't exclusive to Britain. The point I was making was that, from my perspective, it seems like British nobility, specifically, is being confused for general aristocracy.

The obsession seems to be to re-define a long-standing dictionary and wiki definition of a term only as a response to my adding Category:Aristocrats to appropriate articles.

@Grizzhly: They're still blatant members of high society, no matter who's employ they're under. You all don't consider Jindosh – the Grand Inventor of Serkonos – an aristocrat, yet this guy is considered as such? Sorry for picking out cases, but I'm just trying to further elaborate on how odd this reasoning you all have is, in my eyes. Thus far, only subjectivities have been thrown in opposition of official and on-wiki definitions of 'aristocracy'. And Jindosh's standing in high society is highly subjective. He seems to have a tad bit more reach than Lady Boyle, but the point is that both of them are living the high life and in possession of political reach and influence. What makes him different than her? They're both rich, independent, high-standing and primary lieutenants to sovereigns. What gives?

Ultimately, you all are going to do what you want, as you all are more or less in agreement. I've simply been responding accordingly thus far to explain my stance. If you all uniformly believe for whatever reasons that these people aren't aristocrats, then feel free to remove the category from the articles I've added it to. I really don't know what else to tell you all.