Talk:Shadow/@comment-220.233.171.88-20130126024040

I just finished a play through to get Clean Hands, Shadow and Ghost all in one go. I can safely say the following:

- This achievement does count for the white bolts when the NPCs get alerted. I can't say for sure for red (I always reloaded if it got that high). But I got a few white bolts and it was fine.

- It is absolutely possible to deal with the Granny Rags/Slackjaw confrontation and still get these - you can Bend Time and pickpocket Granny Rags while she's still yelling at you. As long as you close the doors behind you, you'll be right.

- River Krusts don't count towards killing anything or getting caught, nor do rats and hagfish (particularly by Possession).