Talk:Kirin Jindosh/@comment-8944282-20161022165421/@comment-16533050-20161024140559

Actually, Fradi, the main point of contention on my side of the argument is a fact you have failed to realize.

You said, and I quote: "And Geist you don't have to bring a prove,Marked persons are heroes in those stories,So it is most likely they won't die or get harmed too badly,Story narrative and all that good stuff,So comics and the Noval is bad idea."

There are three assumptions I am using to prove that an Unmarked person, if capable enough, can defeat a Marked individual, even if said Marked individual is skilled at their craft and has had literally years to hone their power.

These assumptions are, at the moment, assumptions, and I will not know if they are indeed true until the game comes out in three.

Point one) I am assuming Delilah is still considered Marked. Personally, her power seems beyond a simple Marked individual now, and she may be getting her power from the Void itself, as opposed to the Outsider, which would negate her stance of being a "Marked Individual".

However, for the time being (and purpose of my argument) I am inserting her in the Marked category.

Point two) I am assuming that whoever the protagonist in D2 is, whether it be Emily Kaldwin or Corvo Attano, the person wins the overall fight and winds up defeating Delilah, her minions, and her allies.

Some weird plot twist could happen, as they always do in these types of games, where the hero comes close but does not 100% defeat her. I don't think that is going to be case, here, however.

Again, for the time being (and again for the purpose of my argument) I am working under the assumption that the hero, whether Emily or Corvo, wins the day and defeats Delilah.

Point three) It has been confirmed by Harvey Smith that there is an option to play the game of D2 sans powers.

Corvo somehow loses his powers, which I am assuming is the scene where Delilah is shown to draw some black essence from his hand at the beginning of the game. The option becomes available, according to Harvey, that when the hero meets up with the Outsider, they can refuse his Mark and play the rest of the game without it.

I am assuming that the game is not put in some default Easy mode and that the entirety of the missions can be played out as one would play the game with powers.

Until the game comes out, though, I cannot say whether all three of my assumptions are correct, hence my having to wait for three weeks to give a concrete answer to this "debate".

However, if all three are correct: Delilah is still Marked, the protagonist can still defeat her, and the protagonist can do so without the Mark of the Outsider... then it can be done.

Anyway, TLDR.